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Brown - Yates
Rebecca Arimenta Tennessee Brown (1867-1953)
John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates (1866-1927)
Pope County, Arkansas: Laurel, north of Hector, North Fork Township (now Simpson Township)
Tucker & Comanche, Oklahoma
Clovis, New Mexico
then back again to Comanche, Oklahoma
Rebecca Arimenta Tennessee Brown (1867-1953)
John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates (1866-1927)
|Haw Falls, near Hector & Scottsville |
|Longpool Falls, Pope County, Arkansas|
by Don Dailey
1884, September 4, Pope County, Arkansas:
Wedding of Rebecca Arimenta Tennessee Brown (age 17) & John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates (age 18)
1885-1889 (5 years time), Laurel, Arkansas: Rebecca Brown & John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates had their first 3 children -- at Rebecca & John Pryor's ages 18 & 19 to 22 & 23:
(1) 1885: Mary Yates
(2) 1887: Abe Yates
(3) 1889: Sarah Ann (Sally) Yates
Sally Yates Duncan: "When I was born, my parents lived in Pope County, Arkansas -- Russellville was the county seat. My father was John Pryor Yates -- called 'Young Pry' to distinguish himself from his uncle, John Pryor Yates, who was called 'Old Pry.' [ See Holmes-Yates. ] My mother was Rebecca Arimenta Tennessee Brown from Pearl, Arkansas."
[ Note from compiler Lisa Lindberg: Looking for exact location. Websearch: On USGS site, is an entry for an historical Pope County post office, called the Pearl Post Office: "Pearl Post Office (historical) , ID: 84058. History: In operation 1889-1898. Citation: Russell Pierce Baker. From Memdag to Norsk: A Historical Directory of
[ Note from compiler Lisa Lindberg: The uncle called "Old Pry" was also named John Pryor Yates (1832-1864). "Old Pry" had been Sarah Ann Holmes' first husband, who at age 32 had been killed by bushwhackers shortly before the end of the Civil War. Then Sarah Ann Holmes married "Old Pry's brother, Gabriel Yates (1820-1881), and in 1866 "Young Pry" was born. "Young Pry" was named in honor of this uncle and also of the baby's grandfather, John Pryor Yates (1772-1860), the Yates pioneer settler in Arkansas. The name "Pryor" was the name of a prominent Colonial-era Virginia family, and I am still working on finding older ancestors to see if there is a connection. ]
Sally Yates Duncan: "In Arkansas, Mama worked right along with men, cut timber, and had children right along. She would take the baby out and plant it at the end of the row, and when they would get to the end of the row, she would nurse the baby. And maybe that was me.
"Grandmother Brown [Mary Elizabeth Forrester Church Brown] saw Mary and Abe, but she went blind before I was born" [in 1889, by which time Grandmother Brown was age 45].
Duncan Work: "Was it Grandmother Brown who your mother took you to when you got burned?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "Yes, Abe was rocking me in the rocking chair and dropped me in the fireplace and a coal stayed in my head, and the hair never has grown back in that spot. They wrapped my head in sorghum molasses. Mama took me and Abe and Mary and we went over the mountains to Grandmother Brown's house."
Duncan Work: "Didn't she have some verse she said?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "Yes. I heard Mama say that she had something she said and would pass her hand over the burn."
Duncan Work: "There is a book called The Foxfire Book that has stories of people who can do that -- they are called 'fire healers.' "
Sally Yates Duncan: "When I was about four years old, we moved to Comanche, Oklahoma. Mother was pregnant with Louise" [born March 26, 1893 in Comanche, Oklahoma].
See 1893: The Brown & Holmes - Yates Extended Families Moved by Covered Wagon from Pope County, Arkansas to Comanche, Stephens County, Oklahoma -- at the time Chickasaw Nation in Indian Territory
Indian Territory, 1890
Indian Territory: Tribal Nations -- with overlay of present-day Oklahoma counties & county seats
Insert map of area: Comanche, Oklahoma: southeast of Lawton, south of Marlow, & Duncan
1893-1904, 11 years' time: John Pryor ("Young
Pry") Yates & Rebecca Brown family lived in Comanche, Oklahoma
1893-1903, 10 years' time: Comanche, Stephens County, Oklahoma: John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates & Rebecca Brown had the last 3 of their 6 children - - at Rebecca & John Pryor's ages 26 & 27 to 36 & 37:
(4) 1893: Louise Yates
(5) 18__: Zaylon Yates
(6) 1903: Roma Yates
Sally Yates Duncan: "In Comanche we lived in a dug out [earth-sheltered dwelling] with dirt up so far and boards up on top.
"My father [John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates] was fixing to go to town one morning and the horse reared up and drug him a ways, and he limped from then on. I remember they kept him straight on the bed with sand bags and a board at the end to put his feet against. But they should have pulled his leg out because one was always shorter than the other. He wore one shoe with the heel built up.
"I remember one time I carried Roma, my baby sister [the youngest of the family, born 1903 when her older sister Sally was 14] up to Aunt Becky to nurse [wife of Uncle Lige Yates - - "Young Pry's half-brother]. Aunt Becky had just had a baby -- Silva. I thought Roma was the prettiest thing, and Aunt Becky said, "Where did you get that awful-looking thing?" and I felt so bad. She was like that -- she talked snappy and had red hair and I thought she was always mad. But she thought a lot of her nieces and nephews. Uncle Lige drank liquor and sang funny songs."
"We went to school and Papa always saw to it that we had a little music. My father and brothers and sisters and I went to school together. One time we had a spelling bee and I turned down three men. I spelled ‘mosquito’ right. I felt so proud, just a little girl.
"Papa went on to become a school teacher and taught in some of the rural schools in Comanche. He was postmaster for a long time and was an elder in the church.
"There were a lot of Indians in Comanche when we lived there. They would come at Carnival time every summer from Lawton or someplace. They didn’t have houses -- they just lived in their tipis. They would come at Carnival time and camp and the town would kill beeves for them to eat. They would eat them raw you know. They were real Indians with their hair braided with ribbons in them -- the men as well as the women -- and just wore shawls and moccasins."
1895, Nov 2, Comanche, Oklahoma: Death of Sarah Ann Holmes Yates, age 60 (1834-1895) - - mother of "Young Pry" Yates. She is buried in the Comanche Cemetery - - for photo of gravestone, see the end of the page Holmes - Yates.
1898, Comanche, Oklahoma: Death of John Daniel Brown - - father of Rebecca Brown Yates. See Forrester - Church - Brown.
1904: After 11 years of living in Comanche, Oklahoma, John Pryor Yates (age 38) & Rebecca Brown Yates (age 37) & their family of 6 children moved to Konawa, Oklahoma:
1. Mary Yates, age 19
2. Abe Yates, age 17
3. Sally Yates, age 15
4. Louise Yates, age 11
5. Zaylon Yates, age
6. Roma Yates, age 1
Konawa is the town to where the William A. Duncan & Amanda Carr Duncan family had moved from Arkansas sometime after 1886.
1904-1908 - - 4 years' time: The John Pryor & Rebecca Yates Family lived in Konawa, Oklahoma
Sally Yates Duncan: "In 1904 [when I was 15], we moved from Comanche to Konawa and lived there until 1908. 1907 was when Oklahoma was made a state. Papa was the postmaster there, and when he stopped doing that, he and my brother Abe had a furniture store and undertaking place and Mary was the bookkeeper.
"My daddy got a piece of acreage out in the country 2-and-one-half miles from Konawa, and built us a house made of courthouse brick, with dormers for every bedroom. There was a spring down in the ravine which would always run and we used to like to play down there. There was a springhouse with the water running through it where my mother used to put cream and butter to keep it cold, wrapped up in cloths.
"[My brother] Abe and I had horses and we would ride from the house to the saloon and back with Lovess and her brothers. And Abe eventually married Lovess. I walked the 2-and-one-half-mile distance to Konawa with my beaus."
Duncan Work: "How many beaus did you have?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "I don't just know. I always had more than one on the string. My younger sister, Louise, and I used to double date a lot. Konawa is where I met Mr. Duncan [Sally Yates' husband, Odell Carr Duncan]."
Advertisement for William King Duncan's Saloon, "The Senate Bar"
located in Violet, 2 miles west of Konawa in Pottawattamie County:
Konawa Chief-Leader Newspaper
"Local Home of Famous Kentucky Whiskies.
All good brands kept. Good Goods, Good Treatment,
and Good Fellows on Hand"
[Story about how the double-dating couples would go to an event -- sharing the horse & wagon ]
[Story about how at the Yates house, they would roll up the rugs and the young people would dance. ]
[Story about debates at churches, from different denominations, and each side would go home saying to each other, "We really wupped them this time !" ]
1907-1910: Members of the Yates, Duncan, Sproals, & Herndon Families homesteaded in Clovis, New Mexico
1908-1910 - - 2 years' time: John Pryor Yates (age 42-44) & Rebecca Brown Yates (age 41-43) homesteaded in Clovis, New Mexico
Lisa Lindberg: "I know that you and Granddaddy Odell Duncan homesteaded in New Mexico. Did you go out there with your parents and family or with Granddaddy Duncan?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "With my family when I was 18. Uncle Lige Yates [Elijah Yates, then-aged 44, older half-brother to John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates] went to Clovis, New Mexico to homestead. My papa [then-aged 42] decided he would go too, and followed and had a real estate office out there. Clovis was just a small town that sprang up after the allotment of the land started. It had some churches and businesses downtown."
For more about the Yates & Duncan families' homesteading years in New Mexico, see Sally Ann Yates & Odell Carr Duncan: Life Together.
church in northeastern Clovis, New Mexico
by ________, downloaded from Google maps photos Panaramio
1910: John Pryor Yates (age 44) & Rebecca Brown Yates (age 43) moved from their Clovis, New Mexico homestead back to Comanche, Oklahoma -- the area of their first residing in Oklahoma
1910- 1927 & -1953: John Pryor Yates & Rebecca Brown Yates lived the rest of their lives in Comanche - - John Pryor Yates for 17 more years & Rebecca Brown Yates for 43 more years
Sally Yates Duncan: "My father and mother [John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates & Rebecca Brown Yates] came back from Clovis to Comanche, Oklahoma, where my father had a furniture store with his brother, Uncle Lige Yates.
"During the Land Run, my father and Uncle Lige bought some land just on the border, near Lawton, and put up a tent furniture store, and would sell cots and stuff to the people. The men would sell groceries by the train carload and would travel all over."
1921, Healdton, Oklahoma: Death of Mary Eizabeth Brown, age - - mother of Rebecca Brown Yates. See Forrester - Church - Brown. At the time, she was living with daughter, Ludi Brown Tredwell.
1927 Comanche, Okahoma: Deaths of John Pryor Yates, age 61
1953 Comanche, Okahoma: Death of Rebecca Brown Yates, age 88
Lisa Lindberg: "After your Yates parents left New Mexico, did they live the rest of their lives in Comanche?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "Yes, Daddy died in a hospital in Oklahoma City, but is buried in a cemetery north of Comanche -- called 'Comanche Cemetery,' I guess."
To include: Obit account of John Pryor Yates. Fairview Cemetery.
For the next chapter of this story, see Sally Ann Yates & Odell Carr Duncan.
2009: 11/18,21,30, 12/1,4,6
2010: 2/1, 9/22-23