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Sally Ann Yates (1889-1984)
Odell Carr Duncan (1883-1935)
Clovis, New Mexico
Yates Family -- John
("Young Pry") Yates (age 42) & Rebecca Brown Yates (age 41) &
Sally, age 15) -- moved from Comanche, Oklahoma --
where they had lived since 1894 -- to outside of Konawa, Oklahoma.
Konawa is where the Duncan family -- Amanda Darthula Carr (1844-1928) & William Alexander Duncan (1840-1926) & children -- had lived since sometime after 1886.
1904- 1908: The John Pryor & Rebecca Yates Family lived outside of Konawa, Oklahoma
Sally Yates Duncan: "In 1904 we [the John Pryor & Rebecca Yates Family ] moved from Comanche to Konawa and lived there until 1908. 1907 was when Oklahoma was made a state. Papa was the postmaster and when he stopped doing that, he and my brother Abe had a furniture store and undertaking place and Mary was the bookkeeper.
"My daddy got a piece of acreage out in the country 2-and-one-half miles west of Konawa. He built us a house made of courthouse brick, with dormers for every bedroom. There was a spring down in the ravine which would always run and we used to like to play down there. There was a springhouse with the water running through it where my mother used to put cream and butter to keep it cold, wrapped up in cloths."
Konawa Chief-Leader Newspaper
for William King Duncan's Saloon, "The Senate Bar" located in Violet,
2 miles west of Konawa in Pottawattamie County:
"Local Home of Famous Kentucky Whiskies.
All good brands kept. Good Goods, Good Treatment,
and Good Fellows on Hand"
"[My brother] Abe and I had horses and we would ride from the house to the saloon and back with Lovess and her brothers. And Abe eventually married Lovess. I walked the 2-and-one-half- mile distance to Konawa with my beaus."
Duncan Work: " How many beaus did you have?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "I don't just know. I always had more than one on the string. My younger sister, Louise, and I used to double date a lot. Konawa is where I met Mr. Duncan [her husband, Odell Carr Duncan, b. 1883]. His father, [William Alexander Duncan] was mayor of Konawa then, and Odell' sister, Laura Duncan, was a real good friend of mine. At that time, Odell was traveling around on his business, and he was coming home one Sunday to meet me. Laura and I fixed a Sunday picnic lunch and us three went to a Catholic Mission for a picnic get-together -- he used to come out with a team of horses. So I met Odell at church and fell in love with him -- I guess I didn't have any sense. There was this swing on a great big old limb and Odell swung me all afternoon. And in the evening when it got cold, he put his coat on my shoulders -- he was real attentive. And he was the last beau I ever had."
1907-1909: Yates, Duncan, Sproals, & Herndons Homesteaded in Clovis, New Mexico
Lisa Lindberg: "I know that you and Granddaddy Odell Duncan homesteaded in New Mexico. Did you go out there with your parents and family or with Granddaddy Duncan?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "With my family when I was 18 [in 1907]. Uncle Lige Yates [Elijah Yates, then-aged 44, older half-brother to John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates ] went to Clovis, New Mexico to homestead. My papa [John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates, then-aged 42] decided he would go too, and followed and had a real estate office out there. Clovis was just a small town that sprang up after the allotment of the land started, and had some churches and businesses downtown.
"Then Mr. Duncan came out [to Clovis, New Mexico] and married me. He and I had been going together [in Konawa], and he went out there to homestead with his partners from Oklahoma, John Sproals [father of Gilbert Sproals] and Ed Herndon. They all got homesteads near each other. The ideas was when the required time was up, they would all go back to Oklahoma."
church in northeastern Clovis, New Mexico
July 19, 1908, Clovis, New Mexico: Wedding of Sarah Ann Yates & Odell Carr Duncan, age 19 & 24
"Mr. Duncan and I were married July 19, 1908 in Clovis, New Mexico. The minister at the church we went to every Sunday came to the Yates house and we had a family wedding. Mother had cooked a meal and everybody sat down and ate.
"John Sproals was already married [to Stella], but Ed Herndon wasn't, even though the girl he married was at our wedding.
"We had just a little, two-room house. Granddaddy had had just one room, then when we got married, he made a lean-to for a kitchen and we had a little pot-bellied stove that we cooked on and there was a drum on the top that I baked in. Granddaddy built shelves to put things on. We didn't have refrigerators, you know, and you could only cook one day's worth of food because there was no refrigeration. But we had a well and had a box that we put things into and we would put wet cloths around and the wind would blow -- it was always a-blowing -- and then the water would evaporate and keep things cool. There were very deep wells that we would have to lower the bucket down and pull it up I don't know how many feet, so we developed pretty good little muscles in our arms. Granddaddy made us a chicken house out of stalks of milo maize. Just stacked them all up into a structure, and made some places for the chickens to roost."
Duncan Work: "Was chicken your main meat?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "Yes. We ate red beans a lot. We didn't eat meat every day. We would sometimes fry _____."
Lisa Lindberg: "Did the men work together and the women work together?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "Yes they did. When the men went out to work in the fields, we women would take care of the cows and chickens. We would go back and forth between our house and Stella's [John Sprouls' wife] house and take care of the cows. One of the neighbors down the road had some turkeys and one day one young one got out and we killed it and skinned it and buried the feathers so no one would know.
"The men planted Capricorn (whiter than milo maize) and milo maize. We didnít have any horses or our own. We did have a cow. The animals that pulled the wagon from Clovis to Portales to get supplies 25 miles away were mules. One time one of the mules took sick and some people had to go get some medicine and Granddaddy and I sat in the back seat and just spooned (kissing) until they got back.
Duncan Work: "Were there Indians there then?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "No, I don't believe there were any where we lived."
about Odell Duncan "of Portales, New Mexico"
visiting his parents in Konawa, Oklahoma
Konawa Chief-Leader Newspaper, November 1908
July 4, 1910: Clovis Homesteadersí 4th July Picnic and Fire of Sally & Odell's House
Sally Yates Duncan: "On the 4th of July 1910, everybody brought a picnic lunch to Stellaís parents house. And a big thundercloud came up and it just hailed something fierce, and we gathered it up in a pail and put our bottled drinks in it. Odell went down into the field with some other men to see what damage the hail had done. Somebody asked me if I wanted a ride home, but I said I would wait. And meanwhile the lightning had struck our house and it was burning. The men tried to put it out, but it wasnít any use. The fire burned our house and everything we had clear to the ground.
"We got to Sproals that night and Odell and I slept on the floor on a pallet. Stella Sproals was pregnant at the time, just about to have her child. And I got to help when it was born. That was the first time I was ever around anything like that, you know. I held her hand some and patted her and wiped her face off when she was in labor. There was an old midwife who helped when babies were born. She would wash the baby off and then dress it.
"We intended to stay in Clovis just long enough to claim it, and we were ready to prove up on our homestead, so we left and went back to Oklahoma."
1910-1913: Odell and Sally Yates Duncan Lived in Comanche Oklahoma
Sally Yates Duncan: "From their homestead in Clovis, New Mexico, my father [ John Pryor ("Young Pry") Yates ] had come back to Comanche Oklahoma and had a furniture store there with his brother, Uncle Lige Yates. Granddaddy Odell Duncan and I moved to Comanche, too, and my father took us to Oklahoma City and we picked out our furniture. Almost all our furniture is solid oak. Granddaddy Odell Duncan had an office in town for a while Ė a real estate office where he would lease oil rights to people.
"During the Land Run, my father and Uncle Lige Yates bought some land just on the border, near Lawton. They put up a tent furniture store, and would sell cots and stuff to the people. The men would sell groceries by the train carload and would travel all over.
"I traveled with Granddaddy for five years before we had any children. Even after we had children, Granddaddy would want me to travel with him, so he could be with his family. So we would bundle up the baby bed and pack it all in. I was the cashier when he would sell carloads of groceries. Granddaddy could do anything you could think of, fix anything."
Lisa Lindberg: "Could he change a babyís diapers?"
Sally Yates Duncan: "Yes, and he got up in the night to fix the bottles."
1913 and on: Sally Yates Duncan & Odell Duncan lived in Durant, Oklahoma for the rest of their lives
1913-1920 (7 years time), Durant, Oklahoma: Sally Yates Duncan & Odell Duncan had three children -- from Sally & Odell's ages 24 & 30 to 31 & 37.
1913: Odell Yates Duncan
1915: Laura Louise Duncan
1920: Mary Elizabeth Duncan
Sally Yates Duncan: "When our first child, Odell, was born , we lived in Durant. Granddaddy [Odell Carr] Duncanís parents [William Alexander Duncan & Amanda Darthula Carr Duncan] lived across the street from us [across from 611 N. 2nd, Durant]. Mother Duncan was one of those kind, sweet-talking people, and I believe she loved me as much as one of her daughters. Granddaddyís father would come over on the weekend -- we would be sleeping late -- we would do that when we were together on the weekends. Nobody locked their doors in those days, and he would come right through the house and say, 'Get up everybody, itís late.'
"Their youngest daughter -- my very good friend, Laura Duncan [who introduced me to her brother Odell Carr Duncan] -- lived with them and was an old maid dress seller in town. She took care of them till they died [in 1926 & 1928, their ages 86 & 84 ]. [Laura was 42] when they died, and she married a farmer named Brown who was old. She was probably pretty happy with him, who knows. He had three boys, one turned out fine, but the other two werenít worth much."
"We belonged to the Church of Christ [-- Odell Carr Duncan's father, William Alexander Duncan, had preached for the Church of Christ -- the ones who didnít believe in musical instruments and believed they were the only ones who were saved]. But after our son Odell was born, we started going to the First Christian Church because it was closer to our house 611 N. 2nd. After going to the First Christian Church, Odell and I didnít think it was any different from the Church of Christ, and we thought the Church of Christ people were narrow minded.
"Duncan, I helped with Rob when he was born, and when you were born, too. You were such a big, fat, heavy baby, and I would get worn out. I would get up and feed you and then put you on my shoulder and pat you until you burped. Sometimes I thought youíd never get it out so I could go back to sleep. Just like I did with my children, both Rob and Duncan nursed some and were bottle-fed some. Mary Elizabeth didnít have enough milk to feed them, so would nurse them one time and bottle-feed them the next.
1935 & 1984: Deaths of Odell Carr Duncan & Sally Ann Yates Duncan
January 30, 1935, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota: Odell Carr Duncan died of a brain tumor at age 52.
He left to mourn:
- His wife, Sally Yates Duncan (age 46)
- Their children: Odell Yates Duncan (age 22); Laura Louise Duncan (age 20); and Mary Elizabeth Duncan (age 14)
January __, 1984: Durant, Oklahoma: Sally Ann Yates Duncan died at age 95, the matriarch of her family.
Both were buried in the Durant Cemetery.
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